Calls for Biden to stand aside grow after shaky debate performance against Trump – live

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However, the court announced it will issue more decisions on Monday – making it certain that the decision on Trump’s fate will be handed down that day.

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Before it wrapped up, the justices ruled on a case involving a January 6 rioter that could have broad implications for prosecutions related to the attack. Our live blog will tell you more about that:

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As we speak, the supreme court is issuing more opinions, and the two that have come out so far have seen its conservative supermajority green-light penalties for people who sleep outside, and overturn a decades-old doctrine dealing with federal regulations that may have reverberations across the country.

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They’re not yet done for the day, and among the cases they could still rule on is Donald Trump’s petition for immunity from prosecution for trying to overturn the 2020 election. Follow our supreme court live blog for the latest:

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Mike Johnson, the Republican speaker of the House and a top ally of Donald Trump, went in for the kill after Joe Biden stumbled through his parlay with the former president, calling it “the greatest mismatch in the history of presidential debates”.

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In an interview with Fox News, he also implied that America’s enemies would interpret Biden’s debate performance as a sign of weakness when it comes to national security:

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It was sad to watch it. This is dangerous to put this on display for the country. We’re all concerned about this because our adversaries see this as well. We’re in a dangerous moment. We’ve got China, Russia, Iran, North Korea forming a new axis of evil making threats to us and our allies. We can’t afford to have this on the world stage. The only solace we have is that help is on the way. November can’t get here soon enough.

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Joe Biden still plans to participate in a second presidential debate in September, CNN is reporting, citing an adviser.

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The adviser acknowledged that the president’s performance on Thursday was “lackluster” but said the campaign is committed to highlighting the moments it believes worked for their candidate — and then moving on, the outlet states.

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NEW, as just reported on @CNN: Not only does @POTUS not plan to drop out, Biden remains committed to a second debate in September, an adviser tells me

— Kayla Tausche (@kaylatausche) June 28, 2024

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Possible contenders to replace Joe Biden as the Democratic presidential nominee have doubled down on supporting him after a night in which there have been calls for the president to step aside from the 2024 election after a disappointing performance in the first TV debate of the campaign.

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Democratic senator Claire McCaskill said on MSNBC that she was not sure “if things can be done to fix this” after Biden appeared to have been bested by Donald Trump, who despite making numerous false claims nevertheless appeared to be the more coherent of the elderly perspective candidates.

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Biden’s voice at times sounded raspy, and at times he did not make sense, blurting out “We finally beat Medicare” at one point. Trump regularly answered straightforward questions – about the economy, or abortion, or the opioid crisis – with non sequiturs, but after the debate it was Democratic commentators who seemed most concerned about the potential impact on voters.

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Maria Shriver, the former first lady of California, said she loves Biden, but that the evening was “heartbreaking in many ways” and that there was “panic in the Democratic party”. David Plouffe, a Democratic strategist and former Obama campaign official, called the debate “kind of a Defcon 1 moment”.

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There is no easy process in place to replace Joe Biden at this late stage of the process, with him having triumphed mostly unopposed during the primaries and all set to be confirmed as the nominee at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in August.

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The only significant change would be if he were to voluntarily step aside, or even step down from the presidency.

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Possible alternative names being touted include vice-president Kamala Harris, and California governor Gavin Newsom. Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer, Illinois governor J B Pritzker and veteran Ohio senator Sherrod Brown have also been mooted.

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But at least on the night of the debate Harris and Newsom seemed foursquare behind the beleaguered president. Harris conceded Biden made “a slow start”, saying “That’s obvious to everyone. I’m not going to debate that point.”

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However she went on to tell CNN that “people can debate on style points but ultimately this election and who is the president of the US has to be about substance and the contrast is clear. Donald Trump lied over and over and over again as he is want to do. He would not disavow what happened on January 6. He would not give a clear answer on whether he would stand by the election results.”

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Newsom said talk of changing nominee was “nonsensical speculation”, adding “I will never turn my back on President Biden. Never turn my back on President Biden, I don’t know a Democrat in my party that would do so.”

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Should Joe Biden decide not to go for reelection in November after all, the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, which takes place 19-22 August, would have to nominate somebody else. There isn’t a clear frontrunner, but there would be some of the potential options.

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Kamala Harris

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The most obvious default pick would be Biden’s vice-president. She has been widely criticised for not carving out her own role in the Biden administration and has poor polling approval ratings, suggesting she would struggle against Donald Trump in the glare of an election campaign. The 59-year-old was backing Biden after the debate, but would also be maybe the easiest for the party to install as a replacement. She would automatically become president if Biden resigned from the White House, but that would not automatically make her the nominee.

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Gavin Newsom

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The 56-year-old California governor was in the spin room last night talking down any alternatives to Biden being the nominee, saying it was “nonsensical speculation”. He had a primetime debate with Florida gov Ron DeSantis last year, which could be a presidential match-up of the future, and has made a point of supporting Democrats in elections away from his home state, which looked, at times, like a shadow White House campaign.

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J B Pritzker

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The 59-year-old governor of Illinois would be one of the wealthiest of potential picks, but also can flourish the credentials of having codified the right to abortion in Illinois and declaring it a “sanctuary state” for women seeking abortions. He has also been strong on gun control, and legalised recreational marijuana.

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Gretchen Whitmer

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The Michigan governor was on the shortlist for VP pick for Biden in 2020, and a strong showing in the midterms for the Democratic party was in part put down to her governership. The 52-year-old has been in favor of stricter gun laws, repealing abortion bans and back universal pre-kindergarten.

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Sherrod Brown

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The 71-year-old would be the most elderly of the alternate picks, but still seven years younger than Donald Trump. It was considered a surprise when he didn’t have a tilt for the Democratic nomination for 2020, at the time saying he saw remaining as Ohio’s senator as “the best place for me to make that fight” on behalf of working people. A strong voice on labor rights and protections, he has also spoken out on protections for IVF and abortion.

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Dean Philips

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The main contender to Joe Biden during the primaries earlier this year has already demonstrated an inability to appeal to the broader party, and so is unlikely to be a factor.

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Joe Biden does not become the party’s nomination for president until endorsed at the 2024 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, which takes place 19-22 August.

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There is no formal mechanism to replace him as the presumptive nominee, and it would be the first time a party has attempted to do so in modern times. Effectively the only option is that he would have to agree to step aside.

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He won through the primaries almost uncontested, and has about 95% of the delegates who choose the nominee pledged to vote for him. There isn’t a legal requirement that they vote for who won in the primaries, but they are asked to vote in a way that “in all good conscience reflects the sentiments of those who elected them”.

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Were Biden to step aside as a candidate, he might try to nominate someone – most likely vice-president Kamala Harris – as his preferred alternative, which would carry some weight with delegates, but which would not be binding.

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The most drastic course of action open to Biden – resigning the presidency itself – would make Harris president. But that would not automatically make her the Democratic nominee for 2024.

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The party would still have to carry out an open, contested convention, leaving about 700 party insiders the choice of picking someone, and then having only three months to unite behind and campaign for them.

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In case you missed this earlier, here is what Biden had to say.

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“I think we did well,” he told reporters.

n Asked whether he had any concerns about his performance, and calls from some supporters for him to drop out, he said: “No. It’s hard to debate a liar. The New York Times pointed out he lied 26 times.”

n When asked whether he was sick – his aides told reporters during the debate that Biden had a cold – Biden said, “I have a sore throat.”

n At a debate watch party earlier, Biden told supporters: “Look we’re going to beat this guy, and I need you in order to beat him,” he said, adding, “You are the reason why America is as good as we are.”

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“We’re the finest nation in the world,” Biden told supporters energetically a short while later, and “Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you”.

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A CBS host responded: “It appears his cold has been cured.”

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Under current Democratic Party rules, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to replace Biden as the party’s nominee without his cooperation or without the party officials being willing to rewrite its rules at the August national convention.

n The president won the overwhelming majority of Democratic delegates during the state-by-state primary process. And party rules state that, “Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.”

n That said, DNC rules don’t have the same strict “faithless delegate” rules that the RNC does, which ignore votes against in violation of a delegate’s pledged position.

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More detail on why it would be hard to replace Biden here – and some of the names that could (in the also extremely unlikely eventuality of him dropping out of the race) be in the running.

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Here is the analysis of tonight’s debate from the Guardian US’s senior political reporter, Joan E Greve:

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Joe Biden and Donald Trump both walked into the presidential debate on Thursday hoping to sway the so-called “double haters”, those voters who disapprove of both candidates and could play a decisive role in the outcome of the election.

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In the end, those voters probably walked away from the debate with a more visceral understanding of why they hate their options.

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Trump spent the night spouting lies about immigration, abortion and foreign policy while deflecting moderators’ questions on the climate crisis and election denialism. But Biden largely failed to capitalize on Trump’s vulnerabilities and struggled to offer concise and coherent answers.

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Biden’s gravelly voice became such a distraction that the White House had to clarify that he was suffering from a cold. When asked early in the debate about tackling the national debt, Biden offered a rambling answer in which he stumbled through his words before concluding, “Look: we finally beat Medicare.”

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The bizarre slip of the tongue caught the attention of Trump, who retorted: “He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death, and he’s destroying Medicare.”

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Trump then pivoted to the subject of immigration, a tactic that he deployed repeatedly throughout the night. Trump’s successful rebuttal may have obscured the fact that his claim about Biden “destroying Medicare” is false; the president has actually taken steps to expand Medicare benefits, including lowering enrollees’ prescription drug costs.

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That dynamic played out over and over again on Thursday. Biden’s attempts to call out Trump’s endless stream of lies often missed the mark because of his uneven delivery, while CNN moderators Jake Tapper and Dana Bash stuck to the network’s previously stated plan of not fact-checking the candidates in real time:

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From the moment the candidates walked out on to the stage in Atlanta, it was obvious that this debate was a big mistake for Joe Biden. By the end, it was a train wreck for his campaign.

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The incumbent president, who desperately needed to show vitality, looked from the start like an old man. His gait was stiff and his voice tentative. His energy was markedly different from his triumphant State of the Union address just a few months ago.

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Donald Trump had a thuggish look, but he seemed vigorous and energetic. He seemed … the same.

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Then the barrage of lies started, as they always do with Trump.

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Among them: Democrats favor post-birth executions. The former president never slept with a porn star. The 2020 election was riddled with fraud. Trump never called prisoners of war losers and suckers. Biden would quadruple people’s taxes.

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On and on and on, in nearly every Trump sentence. Biden had occasional moments, too, of exaggeration or misstatement. But there is no comparison.

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No comparison – and no fact-checking by the moderators.

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That was the policy going in. CNN’s political director, David Chalian, made that clear a few days ago when he said that debate moderators shouldn’t make themselves into participants but remain mere facilitators. There would be no live factchecks during the debate.

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And so, Trump rolled over Biden, landing punch after punch. Not with logic. And certainly not with truth. But with force of personality, and sheer chutzpah.

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Here is what you may be thankful you missed in tonight’s debate between US President Joe Biden and Donald Trump:

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• Donald Trump and Joe Biden debated abortion and tax policy in the first presidential head-to-head, in which the president struggled to land his lines and Trump countered Biden’s criticism by leaning into falsehoods about the economy, illegal immigration and his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection.

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• Biden’s uneven performance, particularly early in the debate, crystallized the concerns of many Americans that, at 81, he is too old to serve as president. It sparked a fresh round of calls for the Democrat to consider stepping aside as the party’s nominee as members of his party fear a return of Trump to the White House.

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• Biden repeatedly tore into Trump in an apparent effort to provoke him, bringing up everything from the former president’s recent felony conviction to his alleged insult of World War I veterans to his weight.

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• The 78-year-old Trump declined to clearly state he would accept the results of the November election, four years after he promoted conspiracy theories about his loss that culminated in the 6 January insurrection, and repeatedly misstated the record from his time in office.

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• But Biden’s delivery from the beginning of the debate drew the most attention afterward. Trump’s allies immediately declared victory while prominent Democrats publicly questioned whether Biden could move forward.

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• “I think the panic had set in,” said David Axelrod, a longtime advisor to former President Barack Obama on CNN, immediately after the debate about Biden’s performance. “And I think you’re going to hear discussions that, I don’t know will lead to anything, but there are going to be discussions about whether he should continue.” Said Van Jones, another Democratic strategist, on CNN: “He did not do well at all.”

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• Vice President Kamala Harris, speaking on CNN afterward, sought to defend the president’s performance while acknowledging the criticism. “There was a slow start, but there was a strong finish,” she said. Asked about his performance in the debate, Biden told reporters early Friday that “I think we did well,” but said he has a “sore throat.” Pressed about Democratic concerns with his showing that he should consider stepping aside, Biden said, “No, it’s hard to debate a liar.”

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• Biden began the night with a hoarse voice as he tried to defend his economic record and criticize Trump. He repeatedly lost his train of thought. A person familiar with the matter said Biden was suffering from a cold during the debate, adding that he tested negative for Covid-19.

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• Biden appeared to lose his train of thought while giving one answer, drifting from an answer on tax policy to health policy, at one point using the word “Covid” and then saying, “excuse me, with, dealing with,” and he trailed off again. “Look, we finally beat Medicare,” Biden said, as his time ran out on his answer.

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• He also fumbled on abortion rights, one of the most important issues for Democrats in this year’s election. He was unable to explain Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion nationwide. A conservative Supreme Court with three justices nominated by Trump overturned Roe two years ago. When asked if he supports some restrictions on abortion, Biden said he “supports Roe v. Wade, which had three trimesters. The first time is between a woman and a doctor. Second time is between a doctor and an extreme situation. A third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the women and the state.”

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• The current president and his predecessor hadn’t spoken since their last debate weeks before the 2020 presidential election. Trump skipped Biden’s inauguration after leading an unprecedented and unsuccessful effort to overturn his loss that culminated in the Capitol riot by his supporters.

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• Trump equivocated on whether he would accept the results of the November election, saying he would accept them if the vote was “fair” and “legal,” repeating his baseless claims of widespread fraud and misconduct in his 2020 loss to Biden that he still denies.

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There is no evidence Biden is willing to end his campaign. And it would be nearly impossible for Democrats to replace him unless he chooses to step aside, AP reports.

n Every state has already held its presidential primary. Democratic rules mandate that the delegates Biden won remain bound to support him at the party’s upcoming national convention unless he tells them he’s leaving the race.

n If Biden opts to abandon his reelection campaign, Kamala Harris would likely join other top Democratic candidates looking to replace him. But that would probably create a scenario where she and others end up lobbying individual state delegations at the convention for their support.

n That hasn’t happened for Democrats since 1960, when John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson jockeyed for votes during that year’s Democratic convention in Los Angeles.

Other Democrats with their own presidential aspirations include:

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• California Gov. Gavin Newsom

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• Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

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• Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro

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• Illinois Gov. J. B. Pritzker and

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• California Rep. Ro Khanna.

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Still others who Biden bested during the party’s 2020 presidential primary could also try again, including Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, as well as Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.

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The UK’s Financial Times has this useful explainer about what would happen if (and it is a huge, huge, IF, but a slightly less huge one after tonight), Biden dropped out of the race:

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Both [Trump and Biden] easily won their party’s primary vote earlier this year. If they dropped out now, it would be up to delegates at the forthcoming Republican and Democratic conventions to find replacements.

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That would make July’s Republican convention in Milwaukee or the Democratic convention in Chicago in August akin to conventions decades ago, when candidates canvassed each state’s delegation for floor votes.

n State delegates would be “uncommitted” — no longer beholden to their state’s primary result — and able to vote for any candidate they liked, said Elaine Kamarck at the Brookings Institution think-tank. It might take several rounds of voting to find a nominee.

n “Presumably, for Democrats, they would pick [vice-president] Kamala Harris,” said Derek Muller, professor at the University of Notre Dame’s law school.

n But Harris’s approval rating is just 39.4%, according to FiveThirtyEight — even lower than Biden’s 39.9%. Other Democrats would almost certainly jump into the race.

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Could there be a contested Democratic convention? How would that even work? Replacing the president may not be an option, they said, but many acknowledged Democrats are talking about it, spurred by Biden’s troubling debate performance.

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MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace laid out how a candidate could release their delegates. Joy Reid said someone sent her the rules.

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“The rules are circulating,” Wallace laughed.

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“No one is saying it’s going to happen, it’s very unlikely,” Reid reiterated.

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The fact that a liberal network would broach the idea of whether an incumbent president running for re-election could be replaced after they’ve won the nomination shows how Democrats are scrambling after the debate to affirm Biden’s ability to lead the nation. Many are questioning whether the party should have serious conservations about what else could be done instead.

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David Plouffe, a Democratic strategist and former Obama campaign official, called the debate “kind of a Defcon 1 moment”.

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“The biggest thing in this election is voters’ concerns – and it’s both swing voters and base voters – with his age, and those were compounded tonight,” Plouffe said.

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Read the full story:

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My expectations for this debate weren’t just low, they were dungeon-in-hell levels of low. I still wasn’t prepared for how shocking it would actually be. Trump lied unashamedly, Biden waffled incoherently, and the moderators just said “thank you” a lot and moved on. This was not a “debate” so much as a farce.

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If Biden’s team thought this debate would assuage worries about the president’s age and competence, their plans spectacularly backfired. For the first half of the debate, Biden looked dazed and could barely get his words out. He noticeably improved towards the end; still, this was not a man who instills confidence. Trump blustered and lied and dog-whistled his way through the night, but if you were going on optics alone the convicted felon had the upper hand.

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For those of us distraught by Gaza, tonight was a gut-wrenching reminder that neither candidate gives a damn about Palestinian lives. Trump used “Palestinian” as a slur and Biden, meanwhile, reiterated his support for Israel no matter how many Palestinian kids are killed. Neither candidate answered the question of whether they support a Palestinian state and the moderators didn’t press them on it.

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Responses to questions about abortion were also bleak. Trump advanced inflammatory misinformation about late-term abortion and Biden didn’t seem interested in talking about abortion in detail – he didn’t even mention it in his closing statements. He seemed a lot more interested in talking about golf. Indeed, the only part of the night when both men seemed to really come alive was when they got into a fight about their golf handicaps.

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Former House speaker Nancy Pelosi, meanwhile, has taken aim at Trump’s claiming – falsely –during the debate that she was responsible for the January 6 insurrection.

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“How dare he place the blame for January 6th on anyone but himself, the inciter of an insurrection?” she wrote on X:

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I tore up the former president’s State of the Union address because it was a manifesto of lies. Tonight he presented another pack of lies which along, with his candidacy, must be rejected. How dare he place the blame for January 6th on anyone but himself, the inciter of an…

— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) June 28, 2024

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Here are four key takaways from tonight:

One: Biden did badly

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The president joked about the rightwing conspiracies that he would take some kind of performance-enhancing drugs before the debate, posting a link to a can of water for sale on his campaign website called “Dark Brandon’s Secret Sauce”.

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But his low-energy, muted and garbled performance didn’t live up to expectations. And keep in mind: Biden challenged the former president to the debate, which looks like a strategic error in retrospect.

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Voters regularly say they are concerned about Biden’s age and fitness for office. This debate will not assuage their fears.

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Two: Trump lied, again and again:

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Trump repeatedly tried to sell falsehoods and half-truths to voters.

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When questions were posed that would require tough answers, like one about the January 6 insurrection, he deflected and talked about something he could attack Biden on.

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CNN’s moderators did not factcheck statements live. At times, when he avoided the question, they would reiterate it – sometimes successfully getting Trump to answer.

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He falsely claimed Democrats want abortions up until and after birth. He said without evidence that Nancy Pelosi refused his offer for national guard troops on 6 January 2021 to respond to an insurrection he encouraged. He said his administration had the “best environmental numbers”, whatever that means.

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Three: the candidates see America very differently

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The two men showed the distinctions of the two Americas in which they live.

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Trump repeatedly talked about how the US had failed, how Biden was the worst president in the country’s history and how the world views the country dismally now.

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Biden disagreed, offering an optimistic view of the US on the world stage.

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Four: ‘I didn’t have sex with a porn star.’

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Trump’s convictions and varied court cases didn’t come up in the debate until it was well underway, a missed opportunity from Biden to hammer on one of Trump’s key liabilities.

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When the issue finally surfaced, Biden hit at Trump for having sex with an adult film actor while his wife was pregnant, referring to Stormy Daniels and the hush-money trial that concluded in 34 felonies for Trump.

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“You have the morals of an alley cat,” Biden quipped at Trump.

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Trump responded with a line that surely has not been uttered at presidential debates in decades past: “I didn’t have sex with a porn star.”

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The Biden campaign is probably hoping that you did not watch the first presidential debate. Over the course of 90 minutes in Atlanta, the president was only sometimes coherent, delivering meandering statements that were often inaudible, frequently veering off topic, and often running out of his allotted time mid-sentence, so that his message remained unclear or outright incomprehensible to viewers.

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It was a disastrous opening performance for a president whose greatest electoral vulnerability is his age and perceptions about his fitness for the demands of his office. Biden’s showing at the first presidential debate has placed his campaign’s least favorite issue – the president’s stamina and acuity – back at the center of the electoral contest.

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In one of his more energetic and clear moments, Biden responded to a question about his age by pointing out that Donald Trump is only three years younger than he is, “and a lot less competent”. That may be true, but Trump – the convicted felon who has been found liable for sexual assault, was impeached twice, and attempted to overturn the last election when he lost – was forceful, alert, and on message, even as he repeatedly lied.

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In contrast, when the cameras cut to Biden, he was often slack-jawed, his eyes unfocused, seeming to stare into the middle distance with a look of vacant horror. The contrast was stark. Many of the liberal-leaning voters watching no doubt despaired at Biden’s performance, which they feared would permanently cement the popular opinion that he is simply too old for the job.

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He may well be. Even in response to what should have been easy questions, Biden fumbled:

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In an interview with CNN, Kamala Harris defended Joe Biden’s debate performance, and pointed out that Donald Trump spent plenty of time distorting facts and dodging questions.

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“What we saw tonight is the President making a very clear contrast with Donald Trump on all of the issues that matter to the American people. Yes, there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish,” said Harris. “Joe Biden is extraordinarily strong on substance and policy and performance.”

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Pressed to comment on Biden’s performance and Democrats’ concerns that it only heightened voters’ apprehension over his age, Harris said:

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Ultimately, this election and who is the president of the United States has to be about substance. And the contrast is clear. Look at what happened during the course of the debate. Donald Trump lied over and over and over again, as he is wont to do.

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He would not disavow what happened on January 6. He would not give a clear answer on whether he would stand by the election results this November, he went back and forth about where he stands on one of the most critical issues of freedom in America, which is the right of women to make decisions about their own body. He has been completely ambiguous and all over the place about where he stands on that issue, despite the fact that he hand-selected three members of the United States supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v Wade.

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In an interview on MSNBC, David Plouffe, a Democratic strategist who managed Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign and worked in his White House, warned that Joe Biden’s debate performance drew attention to his advanced age, which is one of his biggest weaknesses.

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“It’s kind of a Defcon 1 moment,” Plouffe said. “The biggest thing in this election is voters’ concerns, and it’s both swing voters and base voters, with his age, and those were compounded tonight.”

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Though Biden is only three years older than Trump, Plouffe said, “They seemed about 30 years apart tonight. And I think that’s going to be the thing that voters really wrestle with coming out of this.”

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“DEFCON 1 moment”

Obama campaign vet David Plouffe on the fallout from Biden’s debate performance.

Plouffe adds Biden did “have a couple of good moments” but the “concern level is quite high.” pic.twitter.com/SPi1pcIlDy

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) June 28, 2024

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While many of his allies were expressing concerns over his debate performance, Joe Biden headed over to speak to supporters at a watch party, and showed no indication of pulling out of the second debate scheduled for early September.

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“He’s just a liar,” Biden said of Trump. “ I can’t think of one thing he said that was true, not being facetious. But look, we’re going to beat this guy. We need to beat this guy, and I need you in order to beat him.”

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He concluded with: “Let’s keep going. See you at the next one.”

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The reviews from Democrats of Joe Biden’s debate performance against Donald Trump are in, and they are not good.

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The president’s raspy voice, tendency to meander and difficulty finishing his answers have his allies deeply worried about his ability to beat Trump in the November elections, multiple media outlets have reported.

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Here’s how his former communications director Kate Bedingfield put it:

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Joe Biden's former communications director Kate Bedingfield, on CNN: "It was a really disappointing debate performance from Joe Biden."

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 28, 2024

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The Hill received an ominous text from a swing state Democrat:

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Hoo boy. From one House Dem who hails from a swing state:

“This was a disaster. Biden’s team needs to convince him to withdraw and have an open convention.”

— Al Weaver (@alweaver22) June 28, 2024

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Former top Barack Obama strategist David Axlerod said Democrats are so worried they may wonder if Biden should continue his campaign:

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.@davidaxelrod on CNN post-debate, “ there are gonna be discussions on if he should continue.”

— Andy Kaczynski (@KFILE) June 28, 2024

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The former president used his closing argument to attack Biden as having failed to change anything as president.

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“Like so many politicians, this man is just a complainer. He said, we want to do this, we want to do that, we want to get rid of this tax, that tax. But he doesn’t do anything,” Trump said.

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And then he shifted to his tried-and-true tactic of tying that to all his favored campaign subjects:

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All he does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in. Our military doesn’t respect him. We look like fools in Afghanistan. We didn’t stop Israel. It was such a horrible thing that would have never happened. It should have never happened.

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Trump concluded by saying: “We’re in a failing nation, but it’s not going to be failing any more. We’re going to make it great again.”

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The debate is now over after 90 minutes of back and forth between Trump and Biden.

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Trump walked off the stage, while Biden was joined by Jill Biden, and appeared to go down to speak to moderators Dana Bash and Jake Tapper.

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The candidates are now on to closing statements, with Biden up first and arguing that he had cleaned up a mess left behind by his predecessor.

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“We’ve made significant progress from the debacle that was left by President Trump in his last term,” Biden said.

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He went on to say Trump “increased your taxes because of the deficit. Number one, he’s increased inflation because of the debacle he left after where he handled the pandemic, and he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on everything that comes into the United States of America.”

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Biden ended by pledging to “continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break.”

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After trying twice more, moderator Dana Bash finally got Trump to say he will accept the election results. But in typical form for the former president, he included caveats.

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“If it’s a fair and legal and good election, absolutely,” Trump said.

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Moderator Dana Bash asked Trump if he would accept the election results, and rather than answer, Trump more or less dodged the question by rambling about a variety of things.

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“Will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins? And you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable?” Bash asked.

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“Well, I shouldn’t have to say that, but of course, I believe that it’s totally unacceptable,” Trump said, seemingly in response to the question about political violence.

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But he had more difficulty answering if he would accept the election, and never quite completed his response:

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But the answer is, if the election is fair, free, and I want that more than anybody, and I’ll tell you something, I wish he was a great president, because I wouldn’t be here right now. I’d be at one of my many places, enjoying myself.

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He then went on to attack Biden and accuse him of putting the country on course for a third world war.

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CBS News reports that Biden’s doctor recently diagnosed him with a cold – which may explain his raspy voice and occasional coughing during this debate:

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White House official says POTUS was examined by his doctor, Kevin O'Connor, at Camp David in recent days, and O'Connor determined it was a cold. POTUS tested negative for COVID.

— Nancy Cordes (@nancycordes) June 28, 2024

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A question about childcare led to a back and forth between Trump and Biden in which the Republican insisted that the country had been “destroyed”, while the president argued that things had never been better.

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It was a clear encapsulation of the very different messages each campaign is pushing to voters as they seek to win their allegiance in November.

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Joe, our country is being destroyed. As you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. This shouldn’t be a debate. He is the worst president, he just said about me because I said it. But look, he’s the worst president in the history of our country. He’s destroyed our country.

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We’re the most admired country in the world. We’re the United States of America. There’s nothing beyond our capacity. We have the finest military in the history of the world, the finest in the history of the world. No one thinks we’re weak. No one wants to screw around with us, nobody.

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Both candidates have been saying variations of these themes for months, and will undoubtedly do so right up to election day.

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CNN could face scrutiny for deciding that moderators Jake Tapper and Dana Bash would not be fact-checking Donald Trump.

n David Chalian, CNN’s political director, had explained to the Associated Press: “Obviously, if there is some egregious fact that needs to be checked or the record needs to be made clear, Jake and Dana can do that. But that’s not their role. They are not here to participate in this debate. They are here to facilitate a debate between Trump and Biden.”

n But so far Trump has made false claims about January 6 and the national debt, about Democrats’ plans to abort babies in the eighth or ninth month or even after birth, and that he presided over the “greatest economy in the history of our country”.

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Tapper and Bash have failed to push back, and it’s difficult for Biden alone to counter every lie. The unfortunate upshot is false equivalence: Trump’s lies seem to have just as much weight as Biden’s truths, especially to viewers who might just be tuning into the election. It’s a potential repeat of the disastrous CNN town hall with Trump last year.

n Political commentator David Rothkopf tweeted: “The lack of challenges from moderators has the effect of making it appear that the lies flowing from Trump’s mouth are the same as the facts in which Biden is dealing.”

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Trump was asked if he would prosecute his political opponents, like Biden, if he returns to the presidency.

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“Well, I said my retribution is going to be success. We’re going to make this country successful again, because right now, it’s a failing nation,” Trump said at the start of his answer.

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But then he seemed to indicate that he would target Biden:

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But when he talks about a convicted felon. His son is a convicted felon at a very high level. His son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times. Should have been convicted before, but his justice department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things. But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he’s done. He’s done horrible things.

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That’s partially a reference to Biden, and also to his son, Hunter, who was recently convicted on federal gun charges.

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Trump was asked directly about his role in the January 6 insurrection, during which hordes of his supporters sacked the US Capitol in an effort to block Biden from becoming president.

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The former president did not have much substantive to say in response, but instead tried to steer attention to his campaign planks:

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Let me tell you about January 6. On January 6, we had a great border. Nobody coming through, very few. On January 6, we were energy independent. On January 6, we had the lowest taxes ever. We had the lowest regulations ever. On January 6, we were respected over the world, all over the world. We were respected.

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Biden hit back at Trump’s proposal for Ukraine, accusing him of wanting to pull the US out of Nato and spark a broader war in Europe.

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“I’ve never heard so much foolishness. This is a guy who wants to get out of Nato,” Biden said.

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“What happens if, in fact, you have Putin continue to go into Nato? We have an Article Five agreement, attack on one is attack on all. You want to start the nuclear war, he keeps talking about, go ahead, let Putin go in and control Ukraine, and then move on to Poland and other places. What happens then?”

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Trump claimed he could somehow resolve Russia’s invasion of Ukraine prior to taking office, assuming he wins the November election.

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“I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelenskiy as president-elect before I take office on January 20. I’ll have that war settled, people being killed so needlessly, so stupidly, and I will get it settled, and I’ll get it settled fast before I take office,” Trump said.

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Biden attacked Trump over his reported comments that he called American war dead “suckers” and “losers”.

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“You’re the sucker. You’re the loser,” Biden said.

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Trump then denied that he ever made such a remark:

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First of all, that was a made-up quote, suckers and losers. They made it up. It was in a third rate magazine that’s failing, like many of these magazines, he made that up. He put it in commercials. We’ve notified them.

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Biden and Trump got into it over abortion, with the president telling off his predecessor for his hand in the supreme court decision overturning Roe v Wade, and allowing states to ban the procedure.

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Trump appointed three of the justices who supported that decision, and Biden told him: “It’s been a terrible thing what you’ve done.”

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The president went on to argue politicians should not have a part in women’s health care”:

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The idea that the politicians, the founders, wanted the politicians to be the ones making decisions about my woman’s health is ridiculous … no politician should be making that decision. A doctor should be making those decisions. That’s how it should be.

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The first question from moderator Jake Tapper is about the economy, and specifically the inflation that has gripped the US during Biden’s term.

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“What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under President Trump?” Tapper asked.

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Biden immediately blamed Trump:

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We got to take a look at what I was left when I became president, what Mr Trump left me. We had an economy that was in freefall. The pandemic was so badly handled, many people were dying. All he said was not that serious, just inject a little bleach into your arm, you’ll be all right. The economy collapsed, there were no jobs, unemployment rate rose to 15%, it was terrible. And so, what we had to do is try to put things back together again. That’s exactly what we began to do.

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Joe Biden and Donald Trump have now both taken the stage at CNN studios in Atlanta to begin debating.

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After winning a coin flip, Biden’s team opted for the president to stand at the podium of his choice, and he will be on the right side of the screen. Trump will stand on the left, and has chosen to give the final remarks of the 90-minute debate.

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A feeling of stalemate has taken over the presidential contest thus far: polls have for months shown a very tight race between Trump and Biden, as well as an unusually low amount of enthusiasm for both candidates among the voting public.

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The two campaigns are hoping that tonight’s debate will bring the sort of breakthrough moment – a pithy remark, a catastrophic misstep by their opponent – that has catapulted others to the White House. Here’s more on that dynamic, from the Guardian’s Robert Tait:

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It could be the moment when a rematch that few seem to want finally comes to life: like two ageing prizefighters, Joe Biden and Donald Trump will enter the arena of political bloodsport on Thursday evening to resume a verbal sparring bout that will revive memories of the ugly exchanges when the two debated face to face four years ago.

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A CNN studio in Atlanta will host the first presidential debate of the campaign between the same two candidates who contested the last election, which Biden won.

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With more than four months to go until polling day in November, it is the earliest in any US presidential campaign that a debate between the two main candidates has ever been staged.

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While some see the timing as premature, it could provide a chance to open up a contest that has become overshadowed by, among other things, Trump’s recent felony conviction, as well as assorted other legal travails that see him facing 54 criminal charges for trying to overturn the last election and for retaining classified documents.

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We’re still more than an hour away from the start of CNN’s presidential debate in Atlanta, but various besuited, well-coiffed, seemingly all male politicians are already in the spin room the network has set up, where they are … well, they’re spinning reporters.

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We’re talking about people like California’s Democratic governor Gavin Newsom, who is thought to be a presidential contender some day:

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And Republican congressman Byron Donalds, a potential vice-presidential pick for Trump:

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As well as Corey Lewandowski, who was Trump’s campaign manager for part of his first run for the White House:

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There are a few aspects of this debate that are different from Biden and Trump’s previous encounters, which were organized by the non-profit Commission on Presidential Debates.

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For this election, the two campaigns opted to sideline the nonprofit and attend an event hosted by CNN, and the network’s rules are a little different than those of previous years.

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For one, there will be two commercial breaks during the event, but Biden and Trump’s staff cannot interact with them while the cameras are off (one wonders if there will be any small talk between the two adversaries).

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Finally, there will be no audience in the studio, which means that if Trump or Biden lands a zinger, or flubs a line, you won’t hear applause, gasps or laughs.

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Here’s more from CNN on how this evening’s debate will work:

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Inside the first presidential debate: How exactly is this going to work?

We walk you through it all, from the stage, here: pic.twitter.com/K5o6isqCPV

— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) June 26, 2024

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The presidential debate starts at 9pm ET, and is being held at CNN’s studios in Atlanta.

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Just about every major broadcaster will be carrying it – or you can watch it on the home of the OG politics nerds, CSPAN:

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TONIGHT — CNN Presidential Debate Simulcast – LIVE at 9pm ET on C-SPAN2 https://t.co/wNiRUGU77C pic.twitter.com/3hg8NNFUHE

— CSPAN (@cspan) June 27, 2024

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Good evening, US politics blog readers. All eyes are on CNN studios in Atlanta this evening, where Donald Trump and Joe Biden will be holding the first of two debates scheduled before the 5 November presidential election. Polls show that the candidates are nearly neck-in-neck in the race for the White House, and that many Americans are not pleased at having to put up with a rematch of the 2020 election, where Biden bested Trump. Since then, the Democratic president has seen his job approval sink, while Trump has been criminally indicted four separate times, with one of those cases resulting in his conviction on 34 felony charges last month. There will be plenty to see in tonight’s 90-minute showdown, but both campaigns are hoping for one specific event: a breakthrough moment that captures the public’s attention, and gives Trump or Biden renewed momentum. We will see if that happens.

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Here’s what else we are watching out for:

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• Make no mistake: Biden can sometimes still give a good speech. But at 81, he is also the oldest president to ever serve, and has a tendency to garble his words and mix up facts. Will it undermine him on the debate stage?

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• Trump, who, at 78, is similarly old, can also flop when it comes to speechmaking – just look at how he rambled on after being convicted in his New York hush-money trial last month. How might he stack up against Biden, who always aims to stay on message?

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• The format of this debate is unique in a few ways, since CNN is hosting instead of the non-profit Commission on Presidential Debates, which was spurned by both campaigns. There will be commercial breaks, for one, and, in a break from Biden and Trump’s previous encounters in 2020, when the then-president’s over-the-top attacks didn’t do him any favors, CNN has the power to turn off their microphones if they start arguing. What might that lead to when the two men, who do not like each other at all, are in the same room for the first time in four years?

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Supreme court set to rule on Trump immunity claim on Monday, finds in favor of January 6 rioter in case with wide implications

The supreme court has finished issuing its opinions for the day, but did not rule on Donald Trump’s petition for immunity from charges related to trying to overturn the 2020 election.

However, the court announced it will issue more decisions on Monday – making it certain that the decision on Trump’s fate will be handed down that day.

Before it wrapped up, the justices ruled on a case involving a January 6 rioter that could have broad implications for prosecutions related to the attack. Our live blog will tell you more about that:

Rightwing Republican congressman Chip Roy is leaning into the anxiety consuming Democrats over Joe Biden’s debate performance last night.

He announced this morning that he will propose a resolution asking Kamala Harris to attempt to replace Biden as president:

It is unclear if this will pass the Republican-dominated House of Representatives, and even if it does, Harris can probably ignore it.

Supreme court’s conservatives hand down rulings punishing unhoused, upending federal regulations

As we speak, the supreme court is issuing more opinions, and the two that have come out so far have seen its conservative supermajority green-light penalties for people who sleep outside, and overturn a decades-old doctrine dealing with federal regulations that may have reverberations across the country.

They’re not yet done for the day, and among the cases they could still rule on is Donald Trump’s petition for immunity from prosecution for trying to overturn the 2020 election. Follow our supreme court live blog for the latest:

Republican House speaker Johnson cheers ‘greatest mismatch in the history of presidential debates’

Mike Johnson, the Republican speaker of the House and a top ally of Donald Trump, went in for the kill after Joe Biden stumbled through his parlay with the former president, calling it “the greatest mismatch in the history of presidential debates”.

In an interview with Fox News, he also implied that America’s enemies would interpret Biden’s debate performance as a sign of weakness when it comes to national security:

It was sad to watch it. This is dangerous to put this on display for the country. We’re all concerned about this because our adversaries see this as well. We’re in a dangerous moment. We’ve got China, Russia, Iran, North Korea forming a new axis of evil making threats to us and our allies. We can’t afford to have this on the world stage. The only solace we have is that help is on the way. November can’t get here soon enough.

Minnesota congressman Dean Phillips, who ran against Joe Biden in the Democratic primary, had just a few words in response to last night’s debate performance:

Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer, who is being touted as a possible Biden replacement on the Democratic ticket, has defended the president in a statement this morning that failed to mention last night’s debate.

“Joe Biden is running to serve the American people,” Whitmer said in her statement.

Donald Trump is running to serve Donald Trump. The difference between Joe Biden’s vision for making sure everyone in America has a fair shot and Donald Trump’s dangerous, self-serving plans will only get sharper as we head toward November.

From Politico’s Jonathan Martin:

Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, has spent the morning defending Joe Biden’s debate performance.

Biden “had a bad debate night,” Shapiro acknowledged on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, “but it doesn’t change the fact that Donald Trump was a bad president.”

“That is what I took away from this debate,” he continued.

That’s what I saw, and I think we still have a clear contrast in this race. Nothing about the debate changed that last night.

He added that he has worked closely with both Trump and Biden, “and you know what I can tell you, Joe Biden is up to the job.”

Biden still plans to take part in second debate – report

Joe Biden still plans to participate in a second presidential debate in September, CNN is reporting, citing an adviser.

The adviser acknowledged that the president’s performance on Thursday was “lackluster” but said the campaign is committed to highlighting the moments it believes worked for their candidate — and then moving on, the outlet states.

Pennsylvania senator John Fetterman has told fellow Democrats to “chill the fuck out” following reports that the party reacted with panic and dismay after Joe Biden’s dismal performance on the debate stage.

Fetterman, who survived his own disastrous debate ahead of the 2022, posted to X this morning:

I refuse to join the Democratic vultures on Biden’s shoulder after the debate. No one knows more than me that a rough debate is not the sum total of the person and their record.

Fetterman struggled during his Senate debate with Mehmet Oz, which took place just months after he suffered a stroke.

Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic House minority leader, has said Joe Biden should not step aside after last night’s debate.

From Fox News’ Tyler Olson:

Joe Biden’s debate performance was a “nightmare” for his Democratic party, the Hill’s Amie Parnes wrote, citing one Biden ally who said: “I am watching us lose this election in slow motion.”

Thursday night’s performance sent shudders of anxiety through Democrats who fear a Biden loss could take down other candidates, the Hill’s morning newsletter writes. One House Democrat from a swing state told the outlet:

Biden’s team needs to convince him to withdraw and have an open convention.

Should Biden decide not to go for reelection in November after all, the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, which takes place 19-22 August, would have to nominate somebody else.

Here’s how Biden could be replaced, and who could replace him.

Joe Biden “started off poorly and he ended poorly,” Punchbowl News writes in its newsletter this morning, noting that Democrats must be “very alarmed” by the president’s debate performance.

It was bad. Biden’s answers were rambling, his voice was raspy and he committed repeated verbal flubs that will be clipped thousands of times between now and Election Day. Democrats wanted Biden to show voters that he’s capable of serving another term. Many Democrats now fear they got the exact opposite.

Donald Trump wasn’t great either, with “rambling, wildly unfocused” answers that were filled with falsehoods. But “the problem was that Biden was often unable to exploit Trump’s false statements or distortions.”

Tthe reality is this: No matter what Democrats say on the record today, they’re privately alarmed and many will want Biden out. They’re worried he will drag them down with him on Nov. 5.

Alaina Demopoulos

Winning a presidential debate is one thing, but coming out victorious in the meme wars is something else.

Both Joe Biden and Donald Trump understand how important it is to go viral. According to NBC News, Biden’s campaign headquarters enlisted 18 influencers with a combined following of 8 million to post about the event, amounting to a “post-debate social media clip sharing battle”.

Though Biden’s voice grew stronger as the debate went on – a low bar, considering how weak he sounded at the start – it was impossible for viewers to ignore, especially as concerns about his age are a constant source of stress for Democrats this election.

“I’ve watched a lot of Biden talks. I’ve never heard him sound this frail,” Vox correspondent Zack Beauchamp wrote on X. “Someone has to pull a fire alarm and help Biden out here,” writer Bhaskar Sunkara added, referencing Jamaal Bowman’s infamous congressional incident.

X users wondered: did the president need a cough drop? An energy drink – maybe Panera’s infamous charged lemonade? What about the “secret sauce” he posted a photo holding shortly before the debate, a canned water containing, according to the label, “zero malarky”? (Actual cans later hit the Biden campaign’s official store, costing $4.60 each.)

On social media, people were obsessed with performance-enhancing drugs – and how it appeared that Biden needed to take some. “The Adderall shortage is tearing this country apart and it has finally hit Biden,” read one tweet. “They accidentally injected Biden with ketamine instead of adrenaline,” another wrote. Some fantasized about feeding Biden Adderall through the TV screen.

Calls for Biden to stand aside as surrogates double down in support

Possible contenders to replace Joe Biden as the Democratic presidential nominee have doubled down on supporting him after a night in which there have been calls for the president to step aside from the 2024 election after a disappointing performance in the first TV debate of the campaign.

Democratic senator Claire McCaskill said on MSNBC that she was not sure “if things can be done to fix this” after Biden appeared to have been bested by Donald Trump, who despite making numerous false claims nevertheless appeared to be the more coherent of the elderly perspective candidates.

Biden’s voice at times sounded raspy, and at times he did not make sense, blurting out “We finally beat Medicare” at one point. Trump regularly answered straightforward questions – about the economy, or abortion, or the opioid crisis – with non sequiturs, but after the debate it was Democratic commentators who seemed most concerned about the potential impact on voters.

Maria Shriver, the former first lady of California, said she loves Biden, but that the evening was “heartbreaking in many ways” and that there was “panic in the Democratic party”. David Plouffe, a Democratic strategist and former Obama campaign official, called the debate “kind of a Defcon 1 moment”.

There is no easy process in place to replace Joe Biden at this late stage of the process, with him having triumphed mostly unopposed during the primaries and all set to be confirmed as the nominee at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in August.

The only significant change would be if he were to voluntarily step aside, or even step down from the presidency.

Possible alternative names being touted include vice-president Kamala Harris, and California governor Gavin Newsom. Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer, Illinois governor J B Pritzker and veteran Ohio senator Sherrod Brown have also been mooted.

But at least on the night of the debate Harris and Newsom seemed foursquare behind the beleaguered president. Harris conceded Biden made “a slow start”, saying “That’s obvious to everyone. I’m not going to debate that point.”

However she went on to tell CNN that “people can debate on style points but ultimately this election and who is the president of the US has to be about substance and the contrast is clear. Donald Trump lied over and over and over again as he is want to do. He would not disavow what happened on January 6. He would not give a clear answer on whether he would stand by the election results.”

Newsom said talk of changing nominee was “nonsensical speculation”, adding “I will never turn my back on President Biden. Never turn my back on President Biden, I don’t know a Democrat in my party that would do so.”

Incidentally Joe Biden is due to be campaigning later today in North Carolina. Vice-president Kamala Harris is expected to be in Nevada.

Journalist Jake Sherman has posted to social media claiming to have had a lot of post-debate conversations with congressional Democrats. He writes:

Their sense isn’t that this was a bad debate. It is much worse than that. In their view, Biden didn’t even clear the lowest bar. They may agree with him on policy. But Biden wasn’t even able to articulate what his policies are. For Democrats running down ballot, this is an incredibly serious problem.

Writing for MSNBC, Hayes Brown states that Biden has less than three months to turn this performance around, but does not think it is a completely hopeless case. He writes:

It’s clear that Biden’s energy and capability is still there, as he warmed up throughout the night. He even seemed like an entirely different person in an appearance at an Atlanta watch party that MSNBC aired after the debate ended. The question is how to make sure that version of Biden is on full display throughout the remainder of the campaign, countering the image that may unfortunately be locked into many voters’ minds now.

The answer may rest with reminding Americans that no matter what concerns they might have had about Biden’s performance tonight, there was nothing that Trump did that made it seem like he is the better choice to return to the White House.

One of the odder bits of factchecking last night, via Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post, is whether Joe Biden was being misleading to claim that Donald Trump had said people should inject bleach into their arms during the Covid pnademic. How did we get here? Anyway, to clear up the confusion, Kessler provides the full quote from Trump on 23 April 2020:

I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.

His verdict is that this does not appear to be Trump suggesting people should inject bleach, and that Biden was being misleading.

At the time, asked to clarify his comments the next day, the then-president insisted he had been “asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen.”

Rebecca Solnit

Guardian US columnist Rebecca Solnit has also delivered her verdict, saying the American people were the true losers last night:

Debates exist so that people can hear from the candidates, which makes sense when they’re relative unknowns. We’ve heard plenty from both of them for 40 years or so, since Biden was a young congressman and Trump was a young attention-seeker in New York City’s nightclubs and tabloids, and both of them have had the most high-profile job on earth for four years.

We didn’t need this debate. Because 2024 is not like previous election years, and the reasons it’s not are both that each candidate has had plenty of time to show us who they are and because one of them is a criminal seeking to destroy democracy and human rights along with the climate, the economy and international alliances. If you are too young to remember 2017-2021, this would not help you figure that out.

Much has been said about the age of the candidates, but maybe it’s the corporate media whose senility is most dangerous to us. Their insistence on proceeding as though things are pretty much what they’ve always been, on normalizing the appalling and outrageous, on using false equivalencies and bothsiderism to make themselves look fair and reasonable, on turning politics into horseraces and personality contests, is aiding the destruction of the United States.

Read more from Rebecca Solnit here: The true losers of this presidential debate were the American people